Comments on: UK Government says “no” to creationism/ID in science classes http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/ Not praying for (or on) you Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:43:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: psiloiordinary http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-1029 psiloiordinary Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:46:08 +0000 http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/#comment-1029 Hi, The vast majority of faith schools - which make up a huge proportion of all schools in the UK - are local authority controlled and so do have to abide by the National Curriculum. Academy schools do also have to abide by it in theory as the get inspected by govt inspectors, but they have been caught out supporting ID in practice (never by inspectors) and with rather extreme positions regarding gays. The problem with academies is that £2m gets you £20m odd from public funds to run your school and non mainstream faith groups have been helping themselves. The Vardy Foundation and the "Emmanuel Schools Foundation" are worth a google. Regards, Hi,

The vast majority of faith schools – which make up a huge proportion of all schools in the UK – are local authority controlled and so do have to abide by the National Curriculum. Academy schools do also have to abide by it in theory as the get inspected by govt inspectors, but they have been caught out supporting ID in practice (never by inspectors) and with rather extreme positions regarding gays.

The problem with academies is that £2m gets you £20m odd from public funds to run your school and non mainstream faith groups have been helping themselves.

The Vardy Foundation and the “Emmanuel Schools Foundation” are worth a google.

Regards,

]]> By: nullifidian http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-991 nullifidian Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:35:09 +0000 http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/#comment-991 AV: As far as I can tell from the <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1996/1996056.htm" rel="nofollow">Education Act 1996</a> (which applies to only England and Wales) any school which comes under the control of a local authority is compelled to adhere to the national curriculum, "faith" school or not. Of course, Blair with his wonderful academy nonsense that XanderG mentions above may have special 'get out' rules for such schools that I'm not aware of. It wouldn't surprise me in the least. AV: As far as I can tell from the Education Act 1996 (which applies to only England and Wales) any school which comes under the control of a local authority is compelled to adhere to the national curriculum, “faith” school or not.

Of course, Blair with his wonderful academy nonsense that XanderG mentions above may have special ‘get out’ rules for such schools that I’m not aware of. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

]]> By: XanderG http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-988 XanderG Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:47:17 +0000 http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/#comment-988 To AV, as far as I can tell no. I believe they come under the definition of being a private school, and can thus teach whatever they like. So you get people like Peter Vardy teaching absolute rubbish like creationism, at the taxpayers' expense! This is because though some of the original money is paid by a benefactor, like Vardy, the actual maintenace and running costs are paid by the Government, thus meaning state sponsored creationism. I'm pretty sure that's how it works, but if anyone notices a mistake feel free to correct me. To AV, as far as I can tell no. I believe they come under the definition of being a private school, and can thus teach whatever they like. So you get people like Peter Vardy teaching absolute rubbish like creationism, at the taxpayers’ expense! This is because though some of the original money is paid by a benefactor, like Vardy, the actual maintenace and running costs are paid by the Government, thus meaning state sponsored creationism.

I’m pretty sure that’s how it works, but if anyone notices a mistake feel free to correct me.

]]> By: AV http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-986 AV Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:55:06 +0000 http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/#comment-986 Do faith schools have to abide by National Curriculum standards? Do faith schools have to abide by National Curriculum standards?

]]> By: nullifidian http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-964 nullifidian Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:38:01 +0000 http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/#comment-964 Unfortunately, Blair supports them and thinks that they're a great idea. Thankfully he has less than a week left in office, so perhaps things might start to change for the better after he's fucked off to the USA[1] to be Bush's personal pet proper. There's still plenty of campaigning going on to try stop any new ones being created, but only time will tell. [1] This is at once both a guess, and a hope. Unfortunately, Blair supports them and thinks that they’re a great idea. Thankfully he has less than a week left in office, so perhaps things might start to change for the better after he’s fucked off to the USA[1] to be Bush’s personal pet proper.

There’s still plenty of campaigning going on to try stop any new ones being created, but only time will tell.

[1] This is at once both a guess, and a hope.

]]> By: AV http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-963 AV Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:31:33 +0000 http://www.nullifidian.net/2007/06/21/uk-government-says-no-to-creationismid-in-science-classes/#comment-963 What's the situation in "faith schools?" What’s the situation in “faith schools?”

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